
“Long Talk” is a series we began because of the need for Black intellectual exchange on the African continent but also in the world at large. This conversation will be moderated by Ndinda Kioko.


In 2003, she won the Caine Prize for African Writing for her story “Weight of Whispers,” also the title of a 2003 volume. Her second novel, The Dragonfly Sea, was published in 2019 and was a REAL SIMPLE BOOK of the year. Her first novel, Dust, was published by Knopf in 2014, and received the 2015 TBC Jomo Kenyatta Literature Award.
Yvonne Adhiambo Owuor is a Kenyan author, lecturer, and arts curator. She has a PhD from Lancaster University and is a senior lecturer at Manchester Metropolitan University. She won the Global Commonwealth Short Story Prize 2014 for her short story, “Let’s Tell This Story Properly.” She is a Cheuse International Writing Fellow (2019) and is currently at the KNAW-NAIS Residency (2021). Makumbi is a recipient of the Windham-Campbell Literature Prize 2018. Her third book, The First Woman (for UK/Commonwealth)/ A Girl is a Body of Water (for USA/Canada), came out in Autumn 2020. It was shortlisted for The Big Book Prize: Harper’s Bazaar. Her second book is a collection of short stories, Manchester Happened (for the UK & Commonwealth publication)/ Let’s Tell This Story Properly (for US/Canada), that came out in Spring 2019. Her first novel, Kintu, won the Kwani? Manuscript Project in 2013. Jennifer Nansubuga Makumbi is a Ugandan fiction writer. Moving away from the regular trope of the “founding fathers,” Owuor and Makumbi, who have both written books that critically assess the origin of nations (Kenya and Uganda, respectively), will be in conversation, exposing us to the anxieties, insights, and stories that birthed their projects. “The Root of Nations” was conceived under the pressing need to reconsider what a country might be defined as, and what is possible when one repaints the histories and origins of an African country via the incredibly important but rarely considered female gaze. On Sunday 21st February 2021 at 2pm GMT+1, Jennifer Nansubuga Makumbi and Yvonne Adhiambo Owuor will re-examine what it means to formulate a state.
